Elmar flagged concern after Reddit article 'You're probably accidentally tokenmaxxing. Learn to delegate more.' Problem observed from ~/.hermes/state.db last 7 days: - 179 sess...
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MC-4356
Elmar flagged concern after Reddit article 'You're probably accidentally tokenmaxxing. Learn to delegate more.'
Problem observed from ~/.hermes/state.db last 7 days:
- 179 sessions, 7,740 tool calls.
- Only 51 actual delegate_task calls across 15 sessions.
- 103 sessions matched missed-delegation heuristics: >25 tool calls, >15 terminal calls, or >100k input tokens with zero delegation.
- Heavy direct work is mostly terminal/read_file/search_files in orchestrator context.
Implement a delegation discipline hardening pass:
1. Add/update orchestrator rule: delegate if work will consume >50 lines of code/output, >8 web/search calls, >15 terminal calls, or likely >100k input tokens.
2. Build or configure a daily self-audit for missed delegation using Hermes session DB, writing a compact report and alerting only on violations.
3. Review heavy toolsets on the default Telegram profile and propose delegate-first/profile split for browser/MCP-heavy capabilities without breaking current Telegram workflow.
4. Document the accepted policy in the Luci control-plane runbook / manifest as appropriate.
5. Verify with a dry-run report over the last 7 days.
Acceptance:
- Clear delegation thresholds are codified where Luci will follow them.
- A recurring/self-audit mechanism exists or a concrete config PR/ticket explains why not.
- Report includes before/after or dry-run evidence.
Expected check-in: 2026-05-28T10:26+02:00
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api16d ago
Gate PASS (orchestrator) — signed off, closing.
Verified all artifacts on master @ afea81bb (pushed, nothing unpushed):
- scripts/delegation_audit.py — compiles clean.
- tasks/delegation-self-audit.md — schedule 0 3 * * *, run_as script, runtime_profile direct_python with proper OVERRIDES declaration; runtime-profile lint passes (no undeclared overrides).
- runbooks/luci-delegation-control-plane.md §7 + luci-manifest.md updated.
- reports/delegation-audit/2026-05-28.md dry-run present (40% baseline, 27/67 root sessions/7d).
- ~/.claude/rules/delegation-thresholds.md tracked + committed + in sync with origin (separate repo).
- Confirmed afea81bb only ADDED a direct_python PROFILE_META entry to scheduler.py — did not disturb the exit-75 fix (d174026a).
luci16d ago
Shadow reviewer verdict: FAIL (cycle 1/3). Reopening for fixes.
Reasons: The diff contains changes to app.py related to per-chat runtime sessions (MC-4327), which is completely unrelated to the ticket MC-4356 requirements about delegation discipline hardening. None of the five requirements are addressed in the diff: no delegation threshold rules, no self-audit script, no Telegram profile review, no runbook documentation, and no dry-run report. The worker's claimed evidence lists files (scripts/delegation_audit.py, rules/delegation-thresholds.md, etc.) that do not appear anywhere in the committed diff, and the dirty_tree=1 flag indicates uncommitted changes, meaning the actual work was never committed.
Gaps:
- No committed diff for delegation threshold rules (requirement 1)
- No committed diff for daily self-audit script/config (requirement 2)
- No committed diff for Telegram profile delegate-first proposal (requirement 3)
- No committed diff for runbook/manifest documentation (requirement 4)
- No committed diff for dry-run report evidence (requirement 5)
- All claimed artifacts are uncommitted (dirty_tree=1)
luci16d ago
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Ticket picked up by Luci via MC dispatcher.
MC-4356: Harden Luci delegation discipline and self-audit
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luci16d ago
Ticket runtime send failed while dispatching.
root_cause: HTTP Error 409: CONFLICT
safe_retry: returned to `todo` for a fresh runtime retry.
human_input_required: no
system16d ago
RUNTIME TERMINAL STATE (MC-3482 contract)
status: error
summary: Ticket runtime send failed; parked for automatic recovery.
root_cause: send failed while injecting into ticket runtime: Ticket runtime is not ready for input (status=running). Wait for the current turn to finish, or explicitly interrupt/restart the runtime before sending more terminal input. This message was not sent.
safe_retry: Retry limit reached; operator/human inspection is required before another automatic runtime dispatch.
stop_condition: After the configured retry limit, leave the ticket blocked for operator inspection instead of looping.
human_input_required: yes
next_actions:
- Pickup will retry the pending message in a fresh runtime.
- Inspect runtime/send only if the retry fails again.
artifacts:
- ticket:MC-4356
luci16d ago
Rerouting per Elmar delegation discussion: use Hermes CLI with Codex provider (`hermes_codex`) rather than standalone Codex CLI, so the worker can exercise Hermes-native delegation/cron/skills and verify the policy from inside Hermes.
luci16d ago
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Ticket moved to Todo: Harden Luci delegation discipline and self-audit
luci16d ago
Ticket moved to Todo: Harden Luci delegation discipline and self-audit
luci16d ago
Ticket runtime send failed while dispatching.
root_cause: HTTP Error 409: CONFLICT
safe_retry: returned to `todo` for a fresh runtime retry.
human_input_required: no
system16d ago
RUNTIME TERMINAL STATE (MC-3482 contract)
status: error
summary: Ticket runtime send failed; parked for automatic recovery.
root_cause: send failed while injecting into ticket runtime: Ticket runtime is not ready for input (status=running). Wait for the current turn to finish, or explicitly interrupt/restart the runtime before sending more terminal input. This message was not sent.
safe_retry: Retry limit reached; operator/human inspection is required before another automatic runtime dispatch.
stop_condition: After the configured retry limit, leave the ticket blocked for operator inspection instead of looping.
human_input_required: yes
next_actions:
- Pickup will retry the pending message in a fresh runtime.
- Inspect runtime/send only if the retry fails again.
artifacts:
- ticket:MC-4356
luci16d ago
MC-4356 evidence: delegation thresholds codified in ~/.claude/rules/delegation-thresholds.md, ~/workspace/CLAUDE.md, and default Hermes agent.system_prompt; daily scheduler task ~/workspace/tasks/delegation-self-audit.md ran successfully (task_runs id 324871); dry-run report over 7 days at ~/workspace/reports/delegation-audit/2026-05-28.md shows 71 root sessions audited, 5 delegated sessions / 6 delegate_task calls, 28 missed-delegation violations (39% baseline); runbook and manifest updated with policy + Telegram/default-profile decision.